Katie’s Dad 2.0

BACKGROUND: It was just a little, disingenuous Miami Herald Editorialist Blog post about a little yellow article about a absurdly biased study (PDF) done by Leftist professor and her alien and other assorted and un-assimilated minions at FIU. The study was hailed by a front-group, backed by the Florida Immigration Advocacy Center (FIAC).

FIAC is the force behind every bad immigration bill brought before the Florida Legislature. It proposes in-state tuition for illegal aliens, drivers’ licenses for illegal aliens and just about any goodie that can make FIAC’s immigration lawyer backers a buck. And the Herald loves them. Whee!

So, after reading the article I had questions, so I clicked on the blog link to find out what was going on.

What a Life!: Immigrants a boon to Florida

A new study by FIU dispels many of the myths about immigrants. Researchers say that foreign-born Floridians are more entreprenurial than the native-born and they also receive fewer government handouts etc. Do you think that will change any beliefs? The immigration debate is like abortion, and facts and figures don’t seem to matter.

My initial reply to this laughable sortie was this:

Katie’s Dad said… Why don’t you ask the couple hundred thousand families that have left - actually fled - their long-time homes in South Florida over the past 40 years, my family included, whether or not they believe the immigration flood from the third world has been a “benefit?”

No study can count the financial and emotional cost borne by people were forced, thanks to government-imposed cultural replacement, to leave their life’s accomplishments behind and forego their future dreams in order to spare their children from being forced to assimilate to alien cultures by hordes of often ungrateful - and usually quite clueless about real Americanism - “new Americans.”

I seriously doubt there is a soul left in Dade County who could possibly be fully assimilated to America: Who has been left there in recent years with the understanding of this nation’s heritage legacy to provide them with correct information? They’ve all been run off by the implementers of the Banana Republic of Miami, soon to be joined by the Banana Republic of Ft. Lauderdale, the Banana Republic of West Palm Beach, etc.

If this amnesty becomes law, the folks in the heartland are in for a real shock. Howdy! Welcome to post-American America! Now about that english language of yours…it has got to go!

After this, predictably, (we are talking about the Miameee Herald) the un-assimilants charged in to set me straight about what it means to be an American and to provide additional evidence that assimilation isn’t working at the south end of the peninsula.

So, I replied, republished here, with the silliness in bold italics:

Katie’s Dad said…

Katie’s Dad’s posting makes me ponder why the USA in 2007 is still inherently racist?

Funny, my experience living and working in Miami in 1990 too often made me wonder why so many of these people who came here from chronically failing and failed regimes were so antagonistic to their derisively, racialistically-labeled “anglo” hosts. It quickly became tiresome listening to people so nostalgic for the supposed “greatness” of their native country cultures that, had they really ever been all that, would not have compelled their flight to this country.

Was it wrong that I recoiled from the too oft repeated refrain, “before we came here, Miami was nothing!?” My multi-generation farmer friends formerly from Perrine and family business owners formerly from Coral Gables would have had something to say about that to the contrary. Was I mistaken in thinking that the people in my building who consistently switched languages - from clearly spoken english to spanish - every time I entered the elevator were not being ethnically bigoted? I’d only moved from Broward when I arrived on a required-to-live-there work assignment, so I hadn’t developed any preconceptions or suspicions. It was the preening, superior attitude I got from so many with whom I came in contact that soon soured me on my initial premise that assimilation to America can actually work for all people and all cultures.

After comparing notes with my many friends who left South Florida before me, I know that my feelings are not unique, but prevalent. When my family and I started discussing leaving a few years ago, I contacted several old friends who had left for “other reasons,” a new job, needing to be with aging parents, etc. I sought their counsel on how to handle uprooting my family; what amazed me was that every time I scratched the surface, I found that every single former resident of South Florida I called - some that I had known for as long as 40 years - left the area to get away from the “joys” of the new and monumentally stupid impositions they felt came as a result of our being compassionate with people who needed help. When my usually staid and non-intervening in-laws piped up and said, “if we didn’t have too much invested here so close to retirement, we’d go with you,” then started sharing their own culture-clash experiences with me, I knew our decision to leave was in the best interests of my family.

As far as the “I am sure you would also be leaving because you only want to be with people like you” line is concerned: I want to be with people who at the very least respect the achievements of my ancestors whose blood sacrifice made such an attractive place for you and your families to seek refuge. I want to be with people who don’t put a hyphen before the “American.” And, quite frankly, I want to be with people whose ancestors that when faced with totalitarian impositions put their lives on the line, fought, bled, buried sons and eventually won freedom instead of high-tailing it away to impose their shortcomings on some other nation.

There’s a pattern in the thread in which my attackers repeatedly demand that I reply to each and every point and assertion they make, never mind that most of my points and assertions are never addressed. So it went on…

Katie’s Dad said…

With all due respect katie’s Dad, what exactly do you mean by ‘respect the achievements of my ancestors’?

I appreciate the respect. I do. It is all too rare in this discourse. And had it been shown to my family over the last 40 years by people we helped when they were in need, we’d still be in South Florida.

Two things on this: One, my appeal for respect for my ancestors’ achievements was specifically aimed at the anonymous poster who, in the process of calling me “racist,” posited his own racist ramblings about how his ancestors were here “first” and then tarred mine with the same racist drivel. Cries of racism and bigotry have acted as an intellectual truncheon to beat back dissent over the fact that our national cultural legacy is being buried by an exponentially unprecedented level of mass immigration. I’m tired of it. My extended family is sick of it. My friends in the immigration restriction movement are distressed by it and we will not simply shut up anymore when someone pulls out the race card, particularly when he’s standing in his own racial or ethnic-loving posture when he does it.

Secondly, if there had been a reasonable level of decorum, any fitting and proper homage, shown in South Florida by our modern immigrants and their kids for the works and deeds of those whose families go back to the colonists and founding generations of this nation, there would not have been such a massive evacuation of those who resided in Miami when our federal government decided to make it a sanctuary. Now the same thing is going on in Broward. The fact is, thousands upon thousands of people are removing their families from the “joys of diversity.” Had the Americans whose families did build the original modern infrastructure had their compassionate treatment for refugees properly acknowledged, there would not have been this massive, slow-bleed evacuation.

There is a lot of sugar-coating it and denial going on about this: More that a lot of Americans have left and are leaving South Florida because they cannot stand to be there any more. You can call them bigots and racists all you like for not wanting to assimilate, even a little bit, to alien cultures, it will not make it true. You can call us angry, disappointed, put upon, fed-up, feeling used and intolerant of imposed change and you’d be right. But we did not sign up for having our livelihoods taken away because we are not of your culture and do not share your languages, but for many of us our careers were impeded and dreams shoved roughly aside for that very reason. We could not allow our kids to be forced into schools that are failing in large part because they have to deal with 128 languages. Many of us have family traditions of handing down heritage and legacy and past achievements; we refuse to let our kids have that watered down by those who insist Jose Marti be taught along side John Adams. We don’t see that as a reasonable request.

So please don’t sit there and tell us that somehow your country, which is my country, also didn’t somehow make their lives here in the same way immigrants are trying to make their life here today.

Yes, I will. Those who came as colonists had an idea that was beyond “getting away from something.” John Winthrop, who came to Salem with the Massachusetts Bay Company Charter in 1629, and was handed power by my direct ancestor, Governor Endecott, had a vision shared by his fellow colonists who came the year before. Winthrop and his party did not “flee” anything. It was he who foresaw the “Citee on the hill.” He was not talking about building a beacon for others to come; rather, he was talking about creating and setting an example for others to follow in their homelands. He was articulating the concept that became known as “American Exceptionalism.” Your comparing the two migrations is absurd, and probably insulting. But I don’t think you understand the context of these things from a traditional American perspective to have meant it as such.

There never was and never will be just one group of people that you could look at and say “Yep, those are Americans. the one and only” because it never was like that and never will be.

Now that is an insult. And it is exemplar of the sort of attitude that you folks strutted and imposed upon us that we find to be so disgusting, so vile and so base that we had to evacuate so our children would not be infected by it! And you wonder stupidly why so many of us are sure that assimilation has failed where Diaspora has taken root…

…and on…

Katie’s Dad said…

So there is one kind of person that you can point to and say ‘that’s an American’? Please, do share.

If you’d asked that question before we got so incredibly stupid with our immigration policy in 1965, that would have been easier to answer. A simple check of census demographics before and after is informative.

This belonged to the Native Americans and the colonists in no way tried to assimilate themselves. Rather, they slaughtered the Native Americans, used Africans as slave labor, and imposed their will on the peoples of the new world.

Watched a few too many spaghetti westerns as a kid, did we? Exactly what did those “native Americans” who were here when the first colonists arrived do to those they came upon for ages before European exploration? Why, they fought, killed and enslaved others. How “human” of them! But let’s not discuss that…it wouldn’t fit our intent to impose bias, right?

And, really, what would be of slavery in the world today were it not for the ideas first discussed during the founding of America that it was wrong? It surely would be practiced in more places than it is.

If you can’t take off your contemporary and judgmental lens through which you view it, then every bit of the history of God’s earth can be painted as evil or irrelevant. Finally, your pointing out the foibles of the families of those who were apparently so stupid in granting your family sanctuary is another reason why so many of us don’t like being around people who think like you do. You dig?

…and on….

Katie’s Dad said…Oh yes, diversity. (Bleeechh!)

Name one Diaspora from outside what we call Western Civilization has successfully immigrated and assimilated to this nation. One. There is none. And don’t try to tell me that any who have arrived in the last 40 years count - the jury is still out on that idea, big time. The mechanism for assimilation was shut off with the Hart-Cellar Act. The comments in this thread are all the verification I need that this is so.

There is no proof that what we have done of late and what is proposed in the Senate today will not be the disaster most of us fear; if you get out into the American heartland, this is incontravertable fact. Since what is being proposed represents potentially the most radical change ever legislated against the traditions and culture of the United States, the burden of proof must be placed in the court of those who propose it. If they can offer no iron-clad proof that this will do no harm to our cultural and societal goods, then they should not bring it up.

As far as the Johnson-Reed act is concerned, your straw-man about its support from eugenecists is weak. The vast majority of Americans citizens wanted that legislation; many did for the very reasons I oppose this multicultural garbage being shoved down our throats today. Of course, you, on the other hand are immune from being linked to Latino Nazis like your friends at LaRaza and MALDEF, who very well could have written what you just did, right?

…and it continued…

Katie’s Dad said… You are correct that our view is incompatible. But not for the reasons you think. In short, because I tire of debating with the extreme minority on this issue, it all boils down to this: There is a rank antipathy that many if not most immigrants from outside Western Civilization have for the ideals, deeds and dreams of those who started the things that became American traditions.

To paraphrase something I wrote to someone who contacted me this morning on this very issue. If, when you think about the people that founded this nation, your minds-eye concept considers them as “their founding fathers,” then you aren’t going to understand me. Ever. It’s part and parcel of the package carted around by the poorly assimilated that there is not, and never was, a unique American culture. It’s derisive of this nation’s heritage and gives legitimacy to the concerns of many about the wisdom of a policy based on the questionable notion that all people and all cultures are capable of temperate liberty or maintaining republican democracy.

That’s a traditional American concern. Even Jefferson expressed it: See Notes On Virginia, Query 8.

As far as your position on Johnson-Reed not abandoning the “good neighbor” policy. Yes, I’d love to return to the act’s intent, which was to severely limit immigration for quite some time; there was zero net immigration from the western hemisphere at that time and there had never been much. If you want to re-enact legislation, you must look at its intent. If the same bill were passed today, it would open the door to all from Western Civilization and slam the door on the fingers of those coming from other nations in this hemisphere, particularly those from the third world.

I’d support that wholeheartedly!

I’m done here.

You can read the whole thread yourself. What followed was just the typical mis-assimilated alien rants telling me what it means to be American. While I do know more about Cuban, Nicaraguan, Mexican and other third world Latino cultures than I would like to know, I would never be so arrogant as to tell any of them what their ancestors meant by whatever handed-down heritage lessons they kept through the generations. But they’re from Miamee, so they know better. There’s no better proof that my assessments about that place were spot-on perfect.

It does me good to wade in to what used to be my little slice of American heaven that was, against my better interests, Government morphed into gaggles of idiots and easily corruptibles. I don’t ever want to forget what it felt like to see my hometown and region turn to mierda.

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